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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2020, 03:39:02 pm »
Reality and what an aspie sees are mutually exclusive things.

But it is cute when one aspie follows another aspie's lead.

The reality is you make up stories.

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« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2020, 03:52:16 pm »
I saw every game he played.

His arm looked noticeably stronger than JT's, and his time to throw a good bit quicker.

I can't speak to how good he frames pitches or calls games.  But even if he's behind on JT on those fronts, that's something that he'll get better at over time.

As far the bat, I saw a guy that didn't look one bit confused by what he was being thrown at him.  Which was eye opening given how young and inexperienced he was.

His big weakness as a hitter in the minors had been his lack of power, which makes all the sense in the world given that he just turned 21 this year.

Given what he brings on defense, and his apparent IQ as a hitter, I wouldn't panic at the thought of him playing next season.  Obviously it's less than ideal, but paying JT 20+ million a year when history suggests that his best years are behind him seems foolish.  We made our bet that we'd make the playoffs with JT in 2019 and 2020 and the bet didn't pan out.

We need to cut our losses and just take the comp pick.

you are back to hyperbole mode. jt is the best or 2nd best defensive catcher in baseball and clearly the best at throwing runners out.he played 3 games. in 3 games you've named him as a better defensive catcher than jt. even you can't be this ridiculous

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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2020, 04:10:12 pm »
jt is the best or 2nd best defensive catcher in baseball and clearly the best at throwing runners out.

He caught just one person stealing a base last season.

And just 1 in 145 games in 2019.

How can this be "clearly the best"? lol!
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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2020, 04:18:11 pm »
He caught just one person stealing a base last season.

And just 1 in 145 games in 2019.

How can this be "clearly the best"? lol!

That was him getting caught stealing....and you claim to have watched all 23 innings of marchan but think realmuto only threw out 2 baserunners in the last 2 years????

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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2020, 04:20:58 pm »
He threw out 43 baserunners in 2019...not 1. led the league while earning a gold glove (and silver slugger). Another kruk lie uncovered.
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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2020, 04:31:32 pm »
He threw out 43 baserunners in 2019...not 1. led the league while earning a gold glove (and silver slugger). Another kruk lie uncovered.

Man i must have really rattled you good.

Was it the Aspie thing?  Don't worry, you're in rather large company on that one.  It's nothing to be embarrassed about.

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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2020, 04:35:57 pm »
So JT is currently 7th among active players in throw out%.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/caught_stealing_perc_active.shtml

Or as they say in Philly "clearly the best" lol!

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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2020, 04:41:50 pm »
Man i must have really rattled you good.

Was it the Aspie thing?  Don't worry, you're in rather large company on that one.  It's nothing to be embarrassed about.


That's how you say "I was wrong"?

You clearly lied about the games you watched then actually thought he threw out only ,2 runners over the last 2 years. Why just say "oops, I messed up"?

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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2020, 04:45:35 pm »

That's how you say "I was wrong"?

You clearly lied about the games you watched then actually thought he threw out only ,2 runners over the last 2 years. Why just say "oops, I messed up"?

As I said, Aspergers is nothing to be ashamed about.

Statistically speaking, if you look to your neighbor on the right, and then to you neighbor on your left, both of them have it too lol!

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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2020, 04:47:21 pm »
As I said, Aspergers is nothing to be ashamed about.

Statistically speaking, if you look to your neighbor on the right, and then to you neighbor on your left, both of them have it too lol!

Keep making up stories. "Realmuto isn't any good, he only three out 1 runner each of last 2 years! Marchan is better!!!"

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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2020, 05:11:34 pm »
So JT is currently 7th among active players in throw out%.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/caught_stealing_perc_active.shtml

Or as they say in Philly "clearly the best" lol!

spin doctor- in 2019 he led mlb with over 40% and 43 cs. 1,3,4 and 5 on your list are backup catchers. yadier molina is an all time great and james mccann is a very good catcher and the difference between their percentages is .05. your claim was totally ridiculous; yet your tossing around the aspie term like we're crazy and you're right

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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2020, 05:35:19 pm »
spin doctor- in 2019 he led mlb with over 40% and 43 cs. 1,3,4 and 5 on your list are backup catchers. yadier molina is an all time great and james mccann is a very good catcher and the difference between their percentages is .05. your claim was totally ridiculous; yet your tossing around the aspie term like we're crazy and you're right

Last year we were 7th in stolen bases against.  Not bad, but at .38 a game way more than the Cards at .18.

In 2019 we were 8th.

https://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat/opponent-stolen-bases-per-game

But I'm sure all that happened when JT was having his days off.


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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2020, 05:43:03 pm »
Last year we were 7th in stolen bases against.  Not bad, but at .38 a game way more than the Cards at .18.

In 2019 we were 8th.

https://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat/opponent-stolen-bases-per-game

But I'm sure all that happened when JT was having his days off.

They also lead the lead in caught stealing and caught stealing percentage.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2019-specialpos_c-fielding.shtml

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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2020, 05:50:35 pm »
They also lead the lead in caught stealing and caught stealing percentage.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2019-specialpos_c-fielding.shtml

That stat absolves us of all the plays where our catcher doesn't bother making the throw.

As Jason Peters taught us, players in the modern era have gotten quite adept at gaming the "metrics".

Are we trying to argue that our pitchers in each of 2019 and 2020 took extra long to make their pitches?  Or that they did an extra bad job at keeping runners honest?


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Re: bullpen saved
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2020, 05:54:37 pm »
That stat absolves us of all the plays where our catcher doesn't bother making the throw.

As Jason Peters taught us, players in the modern era have gotten quite adept at gaming the "metrics".

Are we trying to argue that our pitchers in each of 2019 and 2020 took extra long to make their pitches?  Or that they did an extra bad job at keeping runners honest?

The catcher doesn't have to throw for it to count as a stolen base against.