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Our bullpen was an absolute disaster.

Something like 11 runs given up in 16 inning.

For all his faults, Seranthony has been a postseason stud.  1.69 ERA in 2022 in 10 and 2/3rd innings pitched.  0 ERA in 2023 in 5 and 1/3rd innings pitched.

This postseason he gave up no runs in 1 and 2/3rd innings pitched.

At least one of those disaster innings by our pen could have been avoided had we had his proven arm coming in in relief.

Moral of the story, NEVER give up on a postseason proven player, no matter how bad they look in the regular season.

This goes of Castellanos, who's OPS the last 2 postseasons has been .844 and 1.059.  And you can tell from his body language that the moment doesn't get too big for him.

1. NC has been atrocious in the playoffs for the most part.. Nick Castellanos has a .197 batting average with 26 hits, 6 home runs, 15 RBIs and 16 runs scored in 35 games in the postseason in his career.

He was NOT this season, but to say it is not too big a spot for him is not always the case. I wouldn't just get rid of NC just to get rid of him either though unless it makes sense. What I have heard though is that DD has been almost trying to give NC away for nothing. Now that he had a very good year... this may be the time DD actually gets his wish.


2. The BP did stink and perhaps SD could have made all the difference in the world in game 1, but honestly the offense still basically did NOTHING outside of 1 game. I don't know if a BP pitcher was the major issue with this team, despite them all coming up small. The offense didn't give the team any runs to really work with and that was the biggest issue.

Too many Nancies on here afraid to vote.

This poll shows me that the MSM is a bunch of liars...which I already knew, but this sort of confirms it a bit more.

Secondly, the people who want to actually vote for the MORON Kamala, are actually quietly ashamed of themselves. They SHOULD be.

If the last 4 years aren't all the proof you need that Kamala is 1 HUGE JOKE on America, and a VERY BAD joke at that, then you are a bigger moron than Kamala. It's either vote for Trump or show the elites you are fine not using your brain, or you don't have a working brain at least and you NEED to be told what to do and are OK with destroying America. Sorry if you don't like Trump because he lies (what politician doesn't lie?) or says mean words. He's the better choice at the end of the day, period.

There was a large enough minority of us who saw the fatal flaws, even when they had the best record in MLB.  All of those flaws came to fruition against the Mutts.

1. KS should NOT be the leadoff hitter for this particular team, but he is NOT a bad leadoff hitter. This IS a flaw though, because I would prefer his homeruns come with more men on base. He probably hit more first inning homeruns than any other inning, so if he batted 4th or 5th in the lineup, we may have left the first inning more times than not up by a couple or few runs instead of 1. That is a problem for DD to find a better solution to. SOME people would have thought Rojas should have been the leadoff guy, but the dude is so far a minor league allstar at best in my opinion and a gg outfielder at the ML level or platoon guy at best as we speak. No point in having a DH if your 9 hitter is hardy better than batting a pitcher for the most part. Rojas def showed some improvement, but not nearly enough. Too bad Crawford probably isn't ready yet. So, one of this team's major flaws is the lineup construction. It's really all over the place. It needs to be better balanced.


2. All that money spent on Turner wasn't worth it. His biggest issue was we took a decent SS and put him on 2B to now have atrocious fielding at SS. That is a major flaw. The Phillies can't move Turner to the OF soon enough since we are apparently stuck with him with that contract.

3. Losing Hoskins was a bigger issue than most people realize. Not because of what he did or didn't do, but he was a HUGE part of the heart and soul of this team. The biggest problem losing Hoskins? NEVER actually replacing him with anyone that made a difference, or really anybody at all.


4. I think the amount of money spent (Turner, NC, etc.) sort of limited things they wanted to do at the DL. There were players they could have traded foe that would have probably helped the team more, but they didn't pull the trigger because they didn't want certain players with "years" still remaining on their contracts. Not sure how to look at this as a flaw, but it kind of is. It means our GM or president didn't do a good enough evaluation job. Speaking of which... I loved trading for Brandon Marsh. At the end of the day though, The Angels made out better. Although, the Phillies probably should have won at least 1 ring now without Hoppe and with Marsh, but our manager blew it.


5. The biggest flaw on this team is ROB. His feel for the bullpen and how long to leave pitchers in or take out is HORRIBLE. The one thing I don't like to see, is a manager LOSING GAMES FOR HIS TEAM. That just can't happen.  A really good manager doesn't LOSE games for his team on a consistent basis, especially when they are in the playoffs. Again, ROB is a great dude that the players play hard for, but when they need some strategy and they are depending on the manager to get that done, ROB fails more times that not. I am not sure this team can win a WS with ROB as their manager and that is the biggest flaw they have going forward. Perhaps if DD gets ROB some better pieces, he may be able to do more, but the better question is... will he actually do more with better pieces, or will he still choke when the pressure is on and still find a way to mess it up?

Started off with a great record playing Nats, Marlins, White Sox, Rockies etc. And even then ran above expectation and rode positive variance

Then once tougher schedule kicked in it was said they “got cold”. Had a losing record after all star break. Don’t really think they lost to a lesser team in Mets that got hot, but that’s what is being said.

They might both be like 88 win teams, but Phillies just flat out got luckier, particularly in first half

Discuss

Mayock, I kind of disagree. The Eagles were 10-1 at one point last year, and they even got through that supposed "gauntlet" of very good teams. Then they suddenly couldn't even beat bad teams the rest of the season. Something went entirely wrong. So, basically what I am saying is... I don't think the Phillies got "lucky" because of their supposedly easy schedule.

Look at how many teams finished far worse in standings than the Phillies? I honestly think the teams they played in the first half had something to do with it, but after the AS break, this team started having players getting injured. These same players honestly came back probably too soon as well and then they were playing tougher teams at now less than 100 percent compared to the first half of the season.

Teams usually are what their record shows they are. I think some teams are just not suited for getting time off and the Phillies are one of those teams. Ask the Braves and their manager about the byes. The Phillies after the all star break were a totally different team.

Manfred is a MORON for destroying the idea of the importance of winning the division and he seriously needs to look into it. It is not a good thing. A team like the Phillies failed to turn the switch back on, but it is seriously hard for some teams to do. I don't know what the reward for getting 1 of the best 2 records in each league should be, but it can't keep being 5 or more days off while some hot team with tons of momentum is firing on all cylinders. The teams that get past the bye seem to get by based on luck if you look into the games that have been played. I guess it would or could have been looked at as "luck" if the Wheeler could have pitched more than 7 in game 1, but apparently that is no longer realistic, so the Phillies had "bad luck".


This all being said, the season was absolutely a major disappointment. I still think ROB will be lucky to be the manager going forward, and if he does get another season... that will HAVE to be WS championship or bust. I think the Phillies no doubt about it had the team to win a WS, but they ran into the hottest team in baseball at the wrong time. Also, I kind of hated them celebrating the division title. Should have honestly been no celebrating until we at least win a playoff round, especially after last year's epic fail.

Bottom line.. I feel like ROB is a great dude, the players like him a lot, but he fails at the strategic level, and I truly feel like it is time for him to be replaced. The fact that he wasn't fired a minute after last night makes me think he isn't going to be fired anytime soon.

Everyone has been waiting for Hurts to sort of endorse Sirianni, but it seemed Hurts wanted nothing more to do with his HC.

Perhaps with NS feeling the heat, he approached Hurts and the 2 got together to discuss issues they have been having since last year's collapse and Hurts turnover issues....

Seems like things are heading in the right direction. This may not seem like a big deal, but it is kind of HUGE.

Let's see if it makes any difference going forward though...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-qb-jalen-hurts-gushes-over-nick-sirianni-relationship-amid-2-2-start/ar-AA1s2yJw?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8ccbfca8168b46278ce7e7b058e332a4&ei=10


"Like any other bye week, I obviously spent some time away from the building a little bit, but also (spent time) really diving into some things and talking to my coaches and really having some great moments with Nick," Hurts explained, per Bob Brookover of NJ Advance Media for NJ.com. "This is probably one of the most efficient bye weeks I’ve been a part of in my career. I’ve been able to share some moments and talk through some things and build."


"I’m happy and fortunate that we were able to come together in harmony and have the same goal in mind in trying to get this thing right," Hurts added about the time he spent with Sirianni during the bye. "I have a ton of confidence in him, a ton of confidence in what he brings and everything he has been able to accomplish. Everybody goes through different moments and everybody experiences adversity, but we’ve experienced different levels of adversity together and I’m excited about what’s to come."

Do you like having less money in your pocket?

Actually I have more, thank you.  I'm good with things but lets not make this a political forum.   Vote your choice and leave it alone here.

Yeah, they probably upped those welfare checks. LOL

In reality, is it REALLY more money when you are paying MORE for literally EVERYTHING?

I just love the peeps who think "wow I am getting more money per hour with my raise", or the government upped welfare checks, ss, or minimum wage went up, but are literally blind to the fact that as soon as that happens, everything around you goes up in price where it always equals out to the same.

Also, your response is exactly what the brainwashing machine has done and YOU sir, fall for it EVERY SINGLE TIME. Where a bunch of MEN have become sissy boys. Can't handle anything. JoeDirt didn't' bring up politics in this thread. Someone else did...just like your TELL A VISION brings it up every chance they can in sports I am watching. Make sure you do get in line and vote for that beast, just like you were tricked into getting in line for that jab. Be a good little Sheeple.

FedoraJack ended up being wrong about everything

He pumped up the bullpen, he pumped up the manager, he always said “no we don’t need this, no we don’t need that” but we actually did need this, that, and the other

I am not one to defend SimpleJack, but I do think he was right in saying we didn't NEED another SP. Although Skubal would have been nice. I mean didn't really matter who the SP was, when the bats could barely provide the pitchers any run support.

I do think DD made a big mistake trading for Hays though. They seemed a bit overjoyed by getting Hays as if he was like some grand prize they always coveted. That was a joke that did nothing to help them whatsoever.

If it were possible, I'd find ANY way to get rid of Trea Turner. That dude actually garnered the WEAKEST PHILLY moment in sports JoeDirt has EVER SEEN. It has turned this team into a bunch of wussies, led by their STUPID manager. When in the playoffs, this manager has answered all the questions I had about him....all in the WRONG WAY.

Tobias Turner by the way is the perfect name for him. LOL


Sorry not sorry MikeJack. I assure you I am NOT overreacting at this point. Thomson has shown the reason WHY he has never been a manager after all the years in MLB. Not only that, for whatever reason, the game passed Girardi by. Thomson has been a bad extension of Girardi and it's time for him to go.

He has zero feel for how to use his BP, he almost never employed any winning strategy that I could ever tell, aside from his LRLR insistence, which by the way, hurt the team on more occasions than not.   There were so many times I was just hoping Thomson would TRY to trot an entirely different kind of lineup out there. Even if we both agree that KS was a rare unicorn in the leadoff spot, he should have been given time to be put in the middle of the lineup. Just see if it worked out. Move some other pieces around. It's like he had no other ideas to make this team even better.

I want to say, DD did FAIL the team at this deadline, but I think we need to give him this offseason to find the right pieces.

One of those pieces being the right manager for this team.


MikeJack, I am reposting this because it makes sense here in your thread. With that being said, I will add more.

I think I would like the Phillies to try and get professional hitter Bregman if possible.

Move Bohm possibly for a good BP arm.

If the Phillies aren't even thinking about moving Turner (IMO they should be), he HAS to go to the OF.

Miller has shown enough to be up here now. If it is at 3rd and not short. Who is the everyday 2B or SS. I'm with you in keeping Stott and I think he comes back much better next season. Just is he going to be your everyday SS or 2B? If so, who is the other player? If we keep Miller at SS, then it's because we landed a guy like Bregman for 3B. That would work for me, as long as Miller can be an everyday SS in the ML.


The issue with Turner is... He is very good during the regular season, but in the playoffs, he shows up about as much as Tobias Harris on the Sixers did. Never much of anything when we really need the guy. For what he is getting paid... we should expect and be getting more. Not to mention, his fielding at SS is atrocious.


I get what both you and WCPW are saying. I agree with you both. In my opinion though, I side with WCPW more, because what have the Phillies won other than if you aint first your last prizes with KS as their leadoff guy? KS was hitting homers at a great pace. Imagine if more of those came with men on base?  Imagine if he was the guy behind Harper instead of Bohm or NC?

I think the pitching was good enough to win this entire series for the most part, so I am not sure another pitcher would have mattered. The batters failed this series along with the manager.

Again on RT. what has he shown other than the team likes him that he can manage like a Bruce Bochy when it really counts? His moves most likely cost this team the WS, and his moves in the Arizona series or should I say lack of moves hurt them again. Then this Mets series was the cherry on top. RT took over the dead that Girardi left, and made the clubhouse fun again, but he seems to lack true managerial skills when the team needs it.

It is clearly time for RT to go, but you may be right and Long will be the fall guy.

I do wonder though, what this season would have been like, if they ended up not getting the bye?