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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #120 on: November 20, 2023, 01:30:06 pm »
And nothing is going to change until we improve our recruiting and get more of the best players from Maryland and Virginia to come to UMD.

From 2014-2018 we brought in 8 4 star Olinemen, all local kids.

You'd think with an influx like that we'd have had above average line play by ~2016, but low and behold we didn't, cause a DC area 4 star Olineman is simply not that much better than a 3 star from the midwest.

For 2024 Penn State is getting two 4 stars guards from Wisconsin and Boston, and two high 3 star tackles from Wisconsin and North Carolina.

And Penn State for all it's recruiting prowess still can't seem to avoid being dominated at the line by Michigan and Ohio State every time they play.  Line talent is simply not in high abundance in the Northeast, and kids from Virginia have absolutely no reason to favor Maryland over Penn State.




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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #121 on: November 20, 2023, 02:37:01 pm »
From 2014-2018 we brought in 8 4 star Olinemen, all local kids.

You'd think with an influx like that we'd have had above average line play by ~2016, but low and behold we didn't, cause a DC area 4 star Olineman is simply not that much better than a 3 star from the midwest.

lol no it doesn't work like that.

"You'd think with an influx like that we'd have had above average line play by ~2016"
I wonder if all the coaching flux had anything to do with Maryland underperforming in general during that time and also resulted in the loss of some of those recruits you mention...

In 2014 we got Prince, and he stayed for his entire tenure at UMD and was a UDFA
In 2015 we got Quarvez Boulware and E.J. Donahue.   Boulware and Donahue transferred in 2017.
In 2016 we got Terrance Davis and Richard Merritt.   Davis was a 4 year starter.  Merritt transferred in 2018.
In 2017, we got Jordan Mcnair, who died in 2018 during practice.
In 2018, we got Jaelyn Duncan.   Duncan was a starter who got drafted in the NFL.

So we started with 7 4-star recruits, 3 of them transferred by their 3rd year and another one died.   So we were left with 3 that actually stayed with the program.  1 of which got drafted and the other was a UDFA.    So there actually wasn't a problem with the quality of the players that stayed, it's that 3 over 5 years isn't enough to get it done.



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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #122 on: September 28, 2024, 03:35:33 pm »
Looks like a 6-6 season at best for the Terps this year.

2 losses already to Michigan State and Indiana.  Still have USC, Oregon, PSU, and Iowa on the schedule which are pretty much guaranteed losses.

That leaves Northwestern, Minnesota, and Rutgers as the only chances at wins, which are not locks.



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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #123 on: September 29, 2024, 05:28:40 pm »
Turning around a 2-10 season means you 10-2

But turning around 6-6 just means you go 6-6. From a philosophical standpoint if you flip. Thus technically he is turning it around.
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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #124 on: September 30, 2024, 06:48:51 am »
Turning around a 2-10 season means you 10-2

But turning around 6-6 just means you go 6-6. From a philosophical standpoint if you flip. Thus technically he is turning it around.

I’m just so confused.  I was told that the problem was that we had to play Ohio state and Michigan every year, and with the big 10 expansion fixing that, we’d see that Maryland is in fact a good team, and not just some 3rd tier team who can only win against the bottom feeders of the division.

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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #125 on: September 30, 2024, 04:56:06 pm »
I’m just so confused.  I was told that the problem was that we had to play Ohio state and Michigan every year, and with the big 10 expansion fixing that, we’d see that Maryland is in fact a good team, and not just some 3rd tier team who can only win against the bottom feeders of the division.

The 7, 8 and 8 wins we had the last 3 seasons would have been at least 8, 9, and 9 had we stayed in the ACC.

We're technically undefeated against out of conference power 5 opponents for 4 years now.  This includes bowl wins against VTech, Auburn and NC State when they were ranked.

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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #126 on: October 01, 2024, 01:28:14 pm »
The 7, 8 and 8 wins we had the last 3 seasons would have been at least 8, 9, and 9 had we stayed in the ACC.

We're technically undefeated against out of conference power 5 opponents for 4 years now.  This includes bowl wins against VTech, Auburn and NC State when they were ranked.

If my grandmother had wheels, she'd have been a bike..... And you realize staying in the ACC would have meant far less money right?  It means getting rid of some sports programs. Far less resources for recruiting, etc... The whole reason for leaving the ACC was that the athletic department was in the red with no hope of getting out.  So to imply that we'd have the same exact football roster the last several years is a faulty assumption.
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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #127 on: October 01, 2024, 01:57:23 pm »
Stop it with Maryland football, for same reasons for that of Penn State basketball

It ain’t happening
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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #128 on: October 01, 2024, 02:08:31 pm »
And here are our wins against out of conference Power 5 opponents:

2023 - 3-9 UVA (13th in ACC),  6-7 Auburn (5th in SEC West)
2022 - 8-5 NC State (4th in ACC Atlantic)
2021 - 6-7 WVU (6th in Big12) , 6-7 Vtech (4th in ACC Coastal)

So let's not act like we are beating the top teams in other conferences. 

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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #129 on: October 01, 2024, 06:25:04 pm »
And here are our wins against out of conference Power 5 opponents:

2023 - 3-9 UVA (13th in ACC),  6-7 Auburn (5th in SEC West)
2022 - 8-5 NC State (4th in ACC Atlantic)
2021 - 6-7 WVU (6th in Big12) , 6-7 Vtech (4th in ACC Coastal)

So let's not act like we are beating the top teams in other conferences.


If you take out our wins against them, we're talking 4-0 versus Power 5 teams with a 500 record or better.

The Big10 and SEC are crazy stacked now.  The new Pac12 teams are 3-4 so far in conference play, and we supposedly stole their best programs.

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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #130 on: October 01, 2024, 06:39:06 pm »
We did get the four of the top programs, except maybe Utah

Washington was decimated by graduation and players leaving after coach left

UCLA hired a dunce coach though, only thing he could figure out what to say in his big ten media day was that UCLA was in LA. They had to get tshirts made to help diffuse embarrassment

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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #132 on: October 02, 2024, 07:49:25 am »

If you take out our wins against them, we're talking 4-0 versus Power 5 teams with a 500 record or better.

The Big10 and SEC are crazy stacked now.  The new Pac12 teams are 3-4 so far in conference play, and we supposedly stole their best programs.

Cool, so we can beat the bottom feeder Big10 teams and beat some of the middle of the pack teams in other conferences. 

That’s not good enough.  With the resources we have and all the talent in the area, there’s no excuse for not being a Tier 2 team in the Big10 that typically is around the 20-25 best team in the country and every so often gets into the top 15.

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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #133 on: October 02, 2024, 10:34:04 am »
The Athletic does a ranking of all 134 D1 football schools every week.  This week Maryland is ranked #70.  Wisconsin #72, Minnesota #74, Northwestern #78 & UCLA #93 are the only Big10 teams ranked lower.

FWIW, Penn State is ranked #7.  Probably a little higher than they deserve.  They have no shot at beating any of the top 5 ranked teams.

Kent State remains last at #134.

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Re: Mike Locksley has turned it around at UMD
« Reply #134 on: October 02, 2024, 03:41:27 pm »
Maryland has to stop the state flag chit. We get it, you like your flag. It can only help