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krukster

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Re: Defend this, I知 all ears...
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2021, 09:38:10 am »
Gotta ask, if Trump was in bed with Putin, why would he want lower oil prices?

Wasn't Trump's choice.  Even with American oil companies shutting down production at high cost fields due to low oil/gas prices, the prices still remained low.

Even before the Covid lockdown could be used as an excuse, this was happening.

Fossil fuels are a loser.  Pushed forward by backward thinking people that base their ideas on personal pride and hatred for the "libtards" rather than actual fact based reason.

I get it, you guys all got a little wood when Palin first said "drill baby drill".  Idiotic one line punch phrases are pretty much how Trump locked up the Republican nomination.

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2021, 10:09:59 am »
Wasn't Trump's choice.  Even with American oil companies shutting down production at high cost fields due to low oil/gas prices, the prices still remained low.

Even before the Covid lockdown could be used as an excuse, this was happening.

Fossil fuels are a loser.  Pushed forward by backward thinking people that base their ideas on personal pride and hatred for the "libtards" rather than actual fact based reason.

I get it, you guys all got a little wood when Palin first said "drill baby drill".  Idiotic one line punch phrases are pretty much how Trump locked up the Republican nomination.

No, no wood here, really find it funny how when your argument goes to sh-it you go right to the groin area, issue there I guess.  Now all the BS and replies and nonsense you have posted in response on this thread, you haven't made one valid point.  So Trump invented the oil market and the fact that the US was built thru it's use?  So the fact that we had very low fuel costs for same during his presidency was a bad thing?  The fact that renewable power, except nuclear, and we all know it's short comings, are a waste of time, effort and money and the manufacture of same is a huge pollutant (batteries, solar panels, the windings within a wind turbine, yes, I'm a little more knowledgeable then you on this, well that can apply to nearly everything we discuss on here but I'll just leave that as it is).  So the phase "drill baby drill" is the down fall of our society?  And this was per Putin that this happened, correct, or are you off that talking point for this moment?  And I'm sure there is some Iran issue too that I missed.  So fossil fuel, the life blood of the world, not just the US is a plot by the right against the left, got it!  Do you read the trash you write?  You just spew BS based on absolutely nothing and then wonder why your posts are the joke of the board, amazing!

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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2021, 10:26:52 am »
The fact that renewable power, except nuclear, and we all know it's short comings, are a waste of time, effort and money and the manufacture of same is a huge pollutant (batteries, solar panels, the windings within a wind turbine, yes, I'm a little more knowledgeable then you on this, well that can apply to nearly everything we discuss on here but I'll just leave that as it is). 

Your cause and effect reasoning is off here.

Oil and natural gas prices are plummeting cause Green Energy is growing at breakneck rates.

And yes, producing green energy creates a small up front mess as well.  But long term it's far better for the environment than a policy of perpetually extracting fossil fuels.  It's not even close.

And personally I don't share Musk's optimism about batteries.  I think hydrogen fuel will be the worlds primary source of energy storage.  Energy+Water in, Energy+water out. 

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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2021, 10:58:08 am »
Your cause and effect reasoning is off here.

Oil and natural gas prices are plummeting cause Green Energy is growing at breakneck rates.

And yes, producing green energy creates a small up front mess as well.  But long term it's far better for the environment than a policy of perpetually extracting fossil fuels.  It's not even close.

And personally I don't share Musk's optimism about batteries.  I think hydrogen fuel will be the worlds primary source of energy storage.  Energy+Water in, Energy+water out.

As always, just because YOU say it, doesn't make it true, same old same in all of your replies.  Oil and gas are far from plummeting, it's the life blood of a world, simple fact, and not just a US product, it's a world product.  Green NRG is a joke, simple as that, there is no return on investment, there is no net impact on the power grind at this time so again, facts apply, not Kruk facts!  And I love the "small upfront mess", that's a joke!!  That small upfront mess you speak of is hazardous waste that we have NO disposal process for!  But because it suits your agenda, we'll just ignore it. "Not even close" in the pollution by "clean NRG"?  That's so wrong it's funny!  Have any idea what solar panels are made from?  It ain't alfalfa sprouts and honey!!  Hydrogen fuel is a great option, but it's not close to being ready for any large scale use, it's like fusion sounds like a great idea but what will it take to bring it to reality, and what will the by products of same be.

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2021, 11:02:59 am »
Hydrogen fuel is a great option, but it's not close to being ready for any large scale use

Hydrogen fuel is very simple.

Water+energy in, water+energy out.

Where the energy comes from is another question.  Gates and others have developed slow burning nuclear reactors that literally use Nuclear waste to create energy.  The smart money is on these producing more of our future energy needs, with hydrogen fuel being the means to store said energy.

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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2021, 11:16:44 am »
Hydrogen fuel is very simple.

Water+energy in, water+energy out.

Where the energy comes from is another question.  Gates and others have developed slow burning nuclear reactors that literally use Nuclear waste to create energy.  The smart money is on these producing more of our future energy needs, with hydrogen fuel being the means to store said energy.

Again, use facts, not pie in the sky like the Gates stuff, it's more theory than substance.  Hydrogen, water in/water out is your "drill baby drill", no?  Again another great idea, nothing practical but great idea.  These things won't be realized, if they ever are until will past my lifetime, just because Bill Gates hangs his name on it doesn't make it Microsoft!

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2021, 01:33:02 pm »
Global warming is FAKE!

Climate change has been a thing since time began, and is now being used as an agenda.

Greta Thunberg is a government plant based shill trained to tug on your heartstrings, so you'll buy into another brainwashing lie!

There is no defending this.

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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2021, 07:50:23 pm »
Global warming is FAKE!

Climate change has been a thing since time began, and is now being used as an agenda.

Greta Thunberg is a government plant based shill trained to tug on your heartstrings, so you'll buy into another brainwashing lie!

There is no defending this.

Hate say it but I agree, partially.  Global warming is not fake, but is it natural?  The world supposedly heats and cools on a cycle, be it the wobble effect or something else we don't fully understand but to think it is because man made pollution ignores the fact that carbon pollution was way more prevalent during the industrial revolution and temperatures were viewed as decreasing then, it all depends on the sample size.
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2021, 09:33:31 pm »
Again, use facts, not pie in the sky like the Gates stuff, it's more theory than substance.  Hydrogen, water in/water out is your "drill baby drill", no?  Again another great idea, nothing practical but great idea.  These things won't be realized, if they ever are until will past my lifetime, just because Bill Gates hangs his name on it doesn't make it Microsoft!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/24/business/eu-renewable-energy-fossil-fuels/index.html

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2021, 05:28:34 pm »
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/24/business/eu-renewable-energy-fossil-fuels/index.html

And?  The EU is your example?  One of many F'd up policies there, still doesn't have anything to do with the world, next you'll use Upper Darby as an example!

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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2021, 06:49:15 pm »
And?  The EU is your example?  One of many F'd up policies there, still doesn't have anything to do with the world, next you'll use Upper Darby as an example!

The EU is something like 20% of the global economy.

And fun fact, oil company don't give a local discount.  They sell oil to us what the world is currently paying for oil.

So yeah, if the world outside of America is going green that's gonna drive down oil, gas and coal prices and make extraction at most fossil fuel sites economically infeasable.